Evil, Speleo and myself have been trying to boost games to get the kingpin achievment for awhile now. After certain people from a clan to be named nameless all jumped out on us, Speleo was cool enough to try to get his buddies from 360 voice to help out. If anyone wants in it is highly recommended that you have a second account that is at a gold level so that your trueskill ranking on your main account doesnt get ruined. The three of us, along with Gamea’s help,  did a trial run last night after many weeks of pulling together the correct information on how to do it. We were able to boost successfully playing 2 versus 3. With the 2’s getting the wins. We also found out that it will not match you up if it is only 2 versus 2. It also seems that if everyone is a trueskill rank of 1 then the highest one person can get is a 15. So we need to get everyone to a 15 then boost off eachother at that skill level. I think boosting up a second account would be more time put on, but it would also benefit us as well. Once someone reaches Kingpin I truly believe that the boosting process will go so much faster seeing as how someone would be boosting off of a kingpin. Also 3 on 4 would probably make it go faster as well but we just need the people. Missmatching works better because you get more trueskill by "going against the odds", you could say. So if anyone is interested write to Speleo, Evil or myself. We are trying for every Wednesday night at 6 Pacific and Fridays possibly if there are enough online. I would like to even try this every day as long as we are all online together.

Well we’ve learned a few things from last night (which was the most successful session we’ve had yet)

Losing a lot of times in a row (aka being on the losing side of boosting) will really damage your trueskill worse than I thought.  After losing 9 matches with a lot of deaths, even 10 in a row with no deaths wasn’t enough to get past 1 in trueskill.  So you’ve got to be really careful and use extra tags at least at the beginning.

Trueskill seems to stop at 15 when facing level 1 opponents.  Meaning you just can’t level against rank 1 opponents forever.

You’ve got to have at least 5 people to matchmake.  The team games are based on 3v3 minimum, but the game will allow one team to be shorthanded by one player.  So 2v3 is the minimum we need to match up with each other.

Progress so far.

o0EVIL0o - 10 wins in a row, 100 headshots, 160 chains dropped off, trueskill 1

Schofield - 10 wins in a row, 100 headshots, 2-something chains dropped off, trueskill 15

Speleo - None yet

Disbron - None yet

Uggg wel,p sounds like a lot of work. I have saints row but no second account. If you guys are boosting send me a message over xfire and I might join you guys, but I cant make promises bc wife takes tv for her american idols etc.

I can jump in when needed... but I will never be ranked higher then one as I don’t plan on ranking up.. EVER, lol. 

I have been using my 360voice blog (http://www.360voice.com/tag/SpeleoFool) to communicate and coordinate Saint’s Row boosting.  The effort on that end is just barely getting off the ground, and I haven’t been giving people much notice yet (except to say "we’re started").  I’m going to continue posting things there, but will start to direct people to this thread also so that we don’t end up with communications in too many places.  I like this thread because it’s a consolidated place to have a long-term discussion, but the blog comments on 3v may be a better means to reach some folks to let them know there’s an update.

As far as scheduling goes, Wednesdays are a good target, but there’s not really any one time that works best for anyone.  I started putting together a spreadsheet of who can play & when they’re available.  Most people can be on most days, but there are some difficulties in lining up what time of day we can all meet.  6-7 PST seems to be the best window, though some people can’t get on until later and others need to sign off before it gets too late for them.

I think our best chance of success will be to all make Saint’s Row a priority for the next few weeks and try to make matches happen whenever you see enough people online.  Let’s target Wednesdays and Fridays as primary sessions, but if we can get more matches to happen inbetween that’s going to benefit everyone.  And let’s try to get stuff started by 6 PST (or even earlier) and running until late.  We do not need the same people the whole time, as long as we have enough people & the right mix of accounts!

I do think boosting up some "extra" accounts is going to be the way to go.  Since 15 seems to be a ceiling for people playing against rank 1 tags, I think we’ll need at least 3 extra tags boosted up to 15 so we can have a couple 2 vs 3 sessions and see what happens to ranks.  We’ll need to use clean boosting tags--accounts that have not lost any matches before--otherwise we’ll just have more trouble ranking them.  Based on what we’ve seen, here are the types of accounts that will be involved in boosting:

primary account:  
This is the tag you want to get the Kingpin achievement.  These accounts should never lose matches!

kingpin account:  
After you unlock Kingpin, your primary account will be a kingpin account.  We can use kinpin accounts to boost up other primary accounts.

trash account:  
These are extra accounts with gold status that will always lose. 

boost account:  
These are extra accounts with gold status that should not lose until they have reached rank 15.  It is not yet known whether there’s any need for more than one tier of boost accounts (hope not!).

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OK, now that we have some terms defined, we can use them to help coordinate matches.  Here’s what boosting will look like:

Tier 1 Matches
participants:  Primary accts (2) vs. trash accts (3)
result:  Primary accounts will max out @ rank 15

Tier 2 Matches
participants:  Boost accts (2) vs. trash accts (3)
result:  Boost accounts will max out @ rank 15

Tier 3 Matches
participants:  Primary accts w/ rank 15 (2) vs. boost accts w/ rank 15 (3)
result:  Unknown;  hopefully primary accounts can rank most or all the way to Kingpin

Tier 4 Matches
participants:  Primary accts (2) vs. kingpin + boost accts (3)
result:  Unknown;  hopefully primary accounts can rank most or all the way to Kingpin

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All above games should be Team Big A$$ Chains.  The losing team should have one more tag than the winning team if possible, and there’s no reason we can’t try this with more tags (up to 5 vs. 6).

Until we get some tags ranked up higher, I don’t think we know what other types of matches we should have.  Maybe after "Tier 3" matches we can go back to "Tier 2" to re-rank boost accounts?  And we might be able to do primary vs. primary, although that makes me nervous until we know more about the effects of deranking from a high rank.  We’ll know more in time....

I’ll be on tonight; hopefully Disbron and I can get out 10 wins in and rank up a bit, and we’ll start ranking other people or boost accounts with whatever time we have left over.

Cheers!
Speleo.

Nice post dude, you have more of a way with words than I do but that’s exactly what I was thinking as well.

O_O Looks like somone is ready to boost some saints row!

Just sent out some more blog comments @ 360voice.  Let’s try for Mon / Wed / Fri @ 6 PST, or earlier if someone else (Scofield?) can run things.  OnWithTheShow seems pretty eager to contribute, but will have to sign off by ~ 7PST.  If you guys can get something going earlier (like maybe boosting up one or two of Scofield’s clean accounts to 15 so others can boost off it) that could help us all out.  I’ll have to leave that up to someone else to drive, though, b/c I can’t be on earlier than 6:00 PST most days.

Alright, my primary focus is getting you and Disbron the Dominator achievement, then we can start focusing on getting all our primary tags to 15.  Schofield and I can’t really start ranking alternate tags to 15 without you and Disbron though cause almost everyone else is lame.  lol

Okay, it looks like we might need a 5th steady booster to do this.  We haven’t been getting a ton of support so we’ve been trying to wing it with 4 guys and 5 consoles.  But I think the 5th console is having some connection issues so we may need another steady person to help us out.